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Lucia Lucas: Cracking Opera’s Trans Glass Ceiling

LGBTQ&A

Jeffrey Masters

Society & Culture

4.7703 Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2020

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Lucia Lucas talks about her history-making opera career. Her performance in the title role of Don Giovanni made her the first known trans person in the U.S. to perform a principal role in an opera, and is documented in the documentary, The Sound of Identity. LGBTQ&A is hosted by Jeffrey Masters and produced by The Advocate magazine, in partnership with GLAAD. @lgbtqpod We want to hear from YOU! Please take 2-3 minutes to fill out our (short!) listener survey: bit.ly/lgbtqpodsurvey

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0:00.0

From the Advocate magazine in partnership with Glad, this is LGBTQ and A.

0:10.8

I'm Jeffrey Masters, and as I recently learned, the history of opera is woven with a surprisingly transgressive relationship to gender.

0:22.6

The earliest known works had female sopranos on the roles of boys, famous composers like Mozart and Strauss, all of them

0:28.1

wrote male characters explicitly created to be played by women, and of course, there were the

0:33.8

Castrotti, men who were castrated before puberty in order to preserve for their high voices.

0:40.0

The castrati were celebrated during their time, even considered superstars, and they would play

0:45.3

both male and female roles. Now despite all that, when it comes to singers and opera who are out

0:51.6

and identify as trans, there are relatively fewer examples to

0:56.3

pull from. When Lucia Lucas was first coming out in 2014, she thought it very well could be

1:02.7

the end of her career. There was no precedent, no rulebook. And while she has since gone on to

1:08.4

make opera history, that was never a guarantee.

1:11.6

Lucia's history-making turn as the title role in Don Giovanni made her the first known trans person to have a principal role in an opera in the States.

1:21.6

And that experience is documented in a new documentary from James Kicklater called The Sound of Identity.

1:28.4

Lucia is here today to talk about all that and more, so let's get to it.

1:33.2

Without further ado, here's Lucia Lucas.

1:41.1

To begin with, I want to go back to when you were first coming out.

1:45.6

Was there any precedent or other openly trans opera singers that you could look at to see how being out might potentially affect your career?

1:54.2

No, actually.

1:56.1

This has sort of been a rulebook that I've written myself over the last five, six years, because there

2:02.9

wasn't. There were some professional singers who previously had careers who then transitioned.

2:09.6

So there was a little bit of an idea what might happen with my voice, which is not much.

2:16.6

And there was a little bit of an idea about how the business might

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