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🗓️ 23 November 2020
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Lucie Vogel, Original Goat Yoga Mama and survivor of the Dahn Yoga cult, talks with J about holding institutions accountable and a defamation lawsuit filed by Matthew Remski. They discuss Dahn Yoga and her involvement in the organization, when the locust of control shifts in high-demand groups, the process of reclaiming personal empowerment, legal barriers to accountability, why Lucie wrote an article exposing Remski’s lawsuit, and making sure our efforts to achieve justice are true to purpose. This episode is sponsored by Karmasoft.
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0:28.1 | Everyone else, you have to forgive me. |
0:30.4 | I'm having a moment over here. |
0:32.9 | And there's no reason for it. |
0:34.7 | I've got all the time and space that I've ever wanted to do this, and yet I'm |
0:39.8 | still having a hard time. You see, my wife, she took my two daughters to go to some outdoor |
0:47.9 | holiday lighting event that was organized by one of the moms as I think a last hazah because apparently we're going to be |
0:57.8 | locking down again maybe. And my wife could just feel that I was in like a very raw emotional place. |
1:08.2 | She knows me well and she could see it in my eyes and she knew that I wanted |
1:13.1 | to do my tech fast tomorrow and that in order to do that, it's really best if I could record today. |
1:19.6 | And she knew that I didn't want to go to this thing. And so she gave me a pass. She gave me a pass. |
1:25.8 | She said, I'll take the girls. You stay home. She gave me this time. |
1:30.8 | And, you know, I did a practice, and I just, I thought, oh, I'll really get myself into a good place. |
1:36.9 | You know, I'm always under such tight constraints. But, you know, it's funny, having all this time and space actually feels like it made it harder. |
1:46.5 | Like when I have a smaller window and I just have to focus in and make it happen, sometimes that's very conducive to making it happen. |
1:53.7 | But when I had all this time and space, it felt harder. |
1:58.1 | And then when I finally did sit down to do it, my neighbor started mowing his lawn |
2:03.1 | at 5.30 on a Friday. So, in any case, it's been a whole process of trying to get myself to the |
2:13.6 | mic here to talk to you. And just now, while I was waiting for my neighbor to finish mowing his lawn, I was in my kitchen |
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