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Trust me, I'm like a smart person. If you think that one person has all the answers,

don't! Welcome to Trust Me, the podcast about cults, extreme belief, and manipulation

from two Greeks who've actually experienced it, I am low-blunk, I am actually half-creek,

I can say that. And I am Megan Elizabeth, I am not Greek at all.

Alrighty, and today our guest is Madison McGee, former member of a sorority and host of the

podcast Ice Cold Case. Today, Madison is going to tell us about how she always dreamed of joining

a sorority, how she decided which one she was going to join after growing up Christian and

wanting to be a pastor, and what the process of joining was like. We'll talk about how she was

the only black woman in the sorority and was punished for not straightening her curly hair,

how she was prevented from holding a leadership position and ostracized to the point where her

her mental health. And why it's so tricky to create a healthy group culture in Greek life.

Plus, she has a podcast called Ice Cold Case where she tries to solve the unsolved murder of her

father. It's so good, everybody listen. Just quick disclaimer here, you guys, we are not saying sororities

are all cults, that's not a thing. We just wanted to get some perspective on how the social dynamics

can go awry in a very common and beloved group setting. This is, you know, our individual experience,

we are not saying any broad thing about sororities or fraternities as a whole. Right, Megan?

Completely. It's kind of like the CrossFit episode, you know, like some people are in one,

some people aren't. It's an individual experience. Exactly. So that's that's before we dive into

her story, Megan. What is your culties thing of this week? So Leslie Van Halten from The Manson

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