Hey everybody I'm really happy today. My guess is Kelly means.

Kelly is an advocate for changing incentives of the health care system.

And he's the founder of TrueMed a company that enables tax for you spending on food and exercise.

He's also a co-author with his sister, Dr. Casey means of good energy, the surprising

connection between metabolism and limitless health, which is coming out next year and

available for pre-order. Earlier in his career, he was a consultant for food and pharmaceutical

industries and is now exposing the corrupt practices

that those industries use to weaponize our regulatory agencies and our other, our press press or other institutions of trust.

And he's a graduate of Stanford and Harvard Business School.

Ali, I'm really, really happy to meet you.

I had not, I'm embarrassed to say I had not heard of you before I saw you on

the Tucker Carlson show.

I was blown away by some of the stuff that you were saying, working on and how aligned it is with the things that I've been doing over the past, you know, 20 years

in exposing the food industry and the pharmaceutical industry and anyway I'm really proud to have you on the show.

Put sold on your fight Robert and it's great to be here.

So, this week, the IRS has considered by the time this podcast airs,

which will be in the next day or two after you and I recorded, the IRS presumably

will have approved a new policy that gives that favors treatments with Ozempek over actually eating good food, which is the root of all of these chronic diseases that we have.

So talk to us a little bit about that.

Robert, so many Americans have come to, I think, again, be foot soldiers in your fight through different routes.

Mine was my mother.

My mom was on the chronic disease treadmill.

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