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Hello and welcome back to Equity, TechCrunch's flagship podcast about the business of startups.

I'm Rebecca Balan, and this is our Wednesday episode where we home in on a trend in the tech world and dive deep.

Today, I'm handing the reins over to TechCrunch editor over on the venture desk, Julie Bort.

Julie caught up with Mark Benioff, the CEO of Salesforce and one of the tech industry's biggest

hypeman about his latest work with Time Ventures and Salesforce ventures and why he thinks

AI agents are the next big thing for enterprise software. The pair also explored the application

of AI agents in the healthcare space and the range of gadgets that have piqued Benioff's interest

lately, so stick around to the end for that.

Let's listen in. Welcome to the Equity podcast, Mark. Julie, it's great to see you again. It's

been a long, long, long time. I can't believe how long it's been. I am happy that you're here.

So these are your people. This is a podcast for

those who want the inside story about running startups, raising money, all that kind of stuff.

And so I kind of want to start there. You are, of course, a founder yourself of Salesforce,

and you've been running in founder mode, so to speak, since the dot-com era?

Founder mode, whatever that means, you know.

Whatever that means.

You've done a lot of angel investing.

And so are you still angel investing much?

Yeah, I still do a lot of angel investing. I have a company called Time Ventures, but really it's just my own personal investing.

I don't know. We're in hundreds of companies that we've done over the years, maybe more than 200, all kinds of

diversified companies, mostly in software, tuck software, and in health enterprise software. I can't

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