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🗓️ 21 January 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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In a world that constantly demands more—more work, more achievement, more hustle—how do we learn to pause? Kate sits down with her sister Maria Bowler, a writer, creativity coach, and spiritual director, to talk about the pressures of the “producer self,” that voice inside us all that equates our worth with what we do, fix, or achieve.
This conversation is an invitation to live differently—to embrace rest, love, and the sacredness of simply being. For the overachievers, the caregivers, and the deeply tired (you know who you are): you are already enough.
In this conversation, Kate and Maria discuss:
How to see one another (and ourselves) through a lens of love
How to give yourself permission to rest and procrastinate
The difference between meaningful work and the hustle that leaves us hollow
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