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🗓️ 27 October 2024
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Today we hear a Combat Story from Marine Officer and US Army Special Operations Command (or USASOC) leader Varpas de Sa Pereira (de SA Pur-rare-a). His book Warrior Withdrawal: When BAMF No Longer Means Bad*$$ M^ther#u@!er is a great read for anyone trying to understand why so many of veterans - myself included - face challenges transitioning out of the military outside of just PTSD.
Varpas faced combat many times, deploying time and again with a variety of units in search of some "thing" he was missing. He was finally fully engrossed in the ‘system’ and had trouble pulling himself out of it. After 15 years of service, including time in USASOC at the tip of the spear, he finally retired and went back to school to study clinical psychology, where he realized what he had experienced was not abnormal. Many veterans, for whom being a warrior is ingrained in their psyche, struggle to adapt to life outside the military, often leading them to mental health challenges. Varpas coined this as Warrior Withdrawal Syndrome and now works as a psychotherapist to help veterans facing difficulties in their newfound lives.
In this episode we talk through several of his combat experiences in Iraq and some really challenging experiences that officers often face in making life and death decisions in very ambiguous environments.
He is currently a staff psychologist at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), where he provides mental health care to veterans and their families. You can get his book Warrior Withdrawal on Amazon. With that, please enjoy this unique interview with Varpas.
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Show Notes:
00:00 Intro
00:49 Introduction to Combat Story
01:08 Meet Varpus Desaparara
01:56 Warrior Withdrawal: Understanding Veteran Challenges
02:40 Varpus' Unique Background
02:59 The Meaning Behind the Name Varpus
04:45 Family History and Military Service
07:45 The Concept of 'Left of Boom'
09:38 The Transition from Military to Civilian Life
15:30 The Making of a Marine Officer
18:16 First Deployment Experiences
28:00 General's Aide and Beyond
37:13 Reflecting on Regret and Mental Health
38:38 Memorable Events from the First Deployment
40:35 Taking Initiative and Facing Challenges
41:47 Combat Realities and Leadership Decisions
43:28 Navigating Friendly Fire and Tactical Decisions
48:32 Moral Dilemmas and Command Conflicts
55:44 Career Progression and Special Ops Aspirations
01:06:31 Leadership Reflections and Personal Growth
01:12:25 Leadership Challenges in Fallujah
01:14:01 IED Strikes and Quick Reaction Force
01:16:03 Engaging the Enemy and Emotional Toll
01:24:47 Transitioning to Regiment and Family Sacrifices
01:29:07 Special Operations and Missed Opportunities
01:33:42 Warrior Withdrawal and Psychological Impact
01:45:38 Reflections and Moving Forward
01:50:37 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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0:00.0 | And just as that happens, incoming in direct fire. |
0:05.0 | I've heard mortars flying overhead, but this was different. |
0:08.7 | This was more like a jet doing a show of force so loud and then just explosions. |
0:16.2 | And so I got as small as I could and it's just, |
0:19.1 | they're just banging, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, |
0:20.9 | fire for effect. |
0:22.2 | And then there's a pause in the shelling, |
0:25.9 | and I'm like, we need to go. |
0:28.0 | And my company commander insists that this is friendly fire. |
0:31.2 | There's no way this is the bad guys. |
0:33.8 | And he is so sure of that that we didn't move anywhere. |
0:36.6 | So a second round of fire for effect. |
0:38.8 | Now we're bracketed, but we were troops in the open. |
0:41.8 | So if I was calling this mission, |
0:43.3 | it would have been H.E.T. |
0:44.5 | And it would just been steel from the sky. |
0:46.6 | No more of Arbus. |
0:49.1 | Welcome to Combat Story. |
0:50.4 | I'm Ryan Puget, and I serve War Zone Tours as an Army Attack |
0:53.2 | Helicopter pilot and CIA officer over a 15-year career. |
0:56.7 | I'm fascinated by the experiences of the elite in combat. |
1:00.1 | On this show I interview some of the best to understand what combat felt like on their front lines. |
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