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Mark Sisson: Why Walking Beats Running for Longevity

Abel James Show

Abel James

Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Alternative Health, Nutrition

4.62.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

What’s better for longevity—running or walking?

It’s a bit of a trick question.

But if there is one answer, it’s definitely walking.

If you want to be fit and live for a long time, you don’t need to subject yourself to suffer fests and slog through long runs.

In fact, when you combine daily walks with the habit of sprinting just about once a week, magic starts to happen.

Today, I’m thrilled to be joined once again by our friend Mark Sisson, New York Times bestselling author and founder of Primal Kitchen and Peluva minimalist shoes.

Mark had an incredible career as an elite endurance athlete, qualifying for the 1980 Olympic trials in the marathon. But as you’ll hear, his high-mileage running habit ultimately took a toll, leading him to rethink everything he thought he knew about fitness and longevity. 

In his new book, Mark makes a compelling case that we humans are actually born to walk, not necessarily run, and that walking is one of the most powerful and most underrated tools we have for improving our health, body composition, and quality of life. 

As usual, this conversation challenges mainstream fitness dogma, and Mark always brings the receipts.

In this conversation with Mark, you’ll hear: 
  • Why effective exercise includes walking, strength training, and sprinting (but not necessarily jogging or running)
  • How “biohacking” is broken
  • Why stem cell treatments might be more dangerous than we thought
  • What longevity really means
  • And much more…
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0:00.0

Hey, this is Abel James. Thanks so much for joining us on the show.

0:04.0

What's better for longevity? Running or walking?

0:07.0

It's a bit of a trick question, but if there is one answer, it's definitely walking.

0:12.0

If you want to be fit and live for a long time, you don't need to subject yourself to suffer fest and slogging through long runs.

0:19.0

In fact, when you combine daily walks with the habit of sprinting

0:23.7

just about once a week, magic starts to happen. Today I'm thrilled to be joined once again by our

0:30.1

friend Mark Sisson, New York Times best-selling author and founder of Primal Kitchen and Palova

0:35.9

Minimalist Shoes. Mark had an incredible career

0:39.0

as an elite endurance athlete qualifying for the 1980 Olympic trials in the marathon. But as you'll hear,

0:46.1

his high mileage running habit ultimately took a toll, leading him to rethink everything he thought

0:51.0

he knew about fitness and longevity. In his new book, Mark makes a compelling

0:55.4

case that we humans are actually born to walk, not necessarily run, and that walking is one of

1:01.0

the most powerful and most underrated tools we have for improving our health, body composition,

1:07.0

and quality of life. As usual, this conversation challenges mainstream fitness dogma,

1:12.2

and Mark always brings the receipts. And if you'd like to stay up to date on some of the cool

1:16.2

things that we have coming up, including live in-person events here in Austin, Texas, and

1:21.0

beyond, make sure to sign up for my newsletter at abeljames.com. That's abeljames.com.

1:27.1

You can also find me on most social media under Abel James or at Abjames.com. That's abeljames.com. You can also find me on most social media under

1:29.9

Abel James or at Abel James. On Instagram, it's at Abel Jams. But no matter where you find me, I always

1:35.6

love hearing from you. All right, on to this show with Mark Sisson. In this conversation,

1:39.8

you'll hear why effective exercise includes walking, strength training, and sprinting,

1:44.8

but not necessarily jogging or running.

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