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Hello and thank you very much for downloading the Scotland Outdoors podcast.

I'm Mark Steven with me this week, Miss Helen Needham.

Hello, we're talking about all sorts of things, aren't we?

Oh, there's a whole range of stuff on offer.

I went down to a conference this week down in Glasgow.

Now, this is a really clever idea because basically it's looking at post-grad students and saying what you you're the oyster cats are going past two of them having a bit of a

scurling contest anyway post-grad students and what they're doing is looking at the

work and then just using it to cross-fertilize ideas you know to so that you

know what it's like in university it's very easy to work away in your own little

bubble and not know what's going on down at the other end of the corridor.

This breaks up that. I think it's a clever idea.

Well, that's the exciting thing that I'm keen to talk about is because these are the scientists of the future, basically, aren't they?

Looking at ways that we can solve various environmental problems.

But I was excited there as well because those birds were doing lots of things.

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