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MEANS COLLIDES WITH OFFIT

The Highwire with Del Bigtree

The Highwire with Del Bigtree

Health & Fitness, News, Society & Culture

4.93.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Former big pharma & food consultant, Calley Means, went viral this week when he crushed vaccine shill, Paul Offit, in a heated debate on CNN regarding his conflict of interest as sitting ACIP Committee member while also receiving funding from Merck. He joins Del to discuss his efforts as a part of the MAHA coalition traveling state to state advocating for new bills embracing RFK Jr’s health policies.

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0:00.0

From the moment I've gotten into this investigation, into the safety of pharmaceutical products,

0:06.8

specifically vaccines, you know, all we've ever wanted is a debate.

0:10.9

All we've ever wanted is those people that say that they've properly tested these vaccines,

0:15.6

especially those that have made millions of dollars off of them.

0:18.4

Why won't you just sit down at a table?

0:20.5

Let's just put it all out

0:21.3

in front of an audience and say, here's what we have, what do you have, here's what we're asking

0:26.2

for, can you hand it over? It never happens. Every single year, in fact, I reach out to guys like

0:32.9

Dr. Paul Offutt and Peter Hotez and say, would you come on to my show? I'd love to interview you.

0:39.3

I actually think that they would find the experience more pleasant than they imagine.

0:44.8

But, you know, every year it's thank you very much, but no, thank you.

0:49.6

So that's why it was so awesome this week that Dr. Paul Offutt appears to have made a tragic error.

0:56.4

He decided that it might be safe to do a debate if it was just with the food guy.

1:02.5

I mean, what does he know?

1:04.4

Well, sparks flew because this is what the food guy had to say.

1:10.1

Vaccines, I think, are really the safest, best tested things that we give to children,

1:14.0

and that's what is making America healthy again.

1:16.7

And I think to focus on vaccines as a target and claim that they're causing harms when

1:22.2

they're not is only a detriment to America's children.

1:25.0

What's causing distrust in public health authorities is conflict of

1:27.8

interest, like Dr. Offutt taking millions of dollars from pharmaceutical makers like Merck while

1:33.4

approving and recommending pharmaceuticals on ASIP committees. It's the fact that Dr. Offit's saying that

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