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🗓️ 11 March 2025
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0:00.0 | From the free press, this is honestly, and I'm Barry Weiss. You've probably never heard of Sarah |
0:05.7 | Wyn Williams, but I suspect that's about to change. Sarah's written a memoir about her more than six |
0:11.4 | years at Facebook, the company that has since rebranded as meta. She's the highest-level staffer |
0:17.0 | to come forward as a whistleblower, and until around 72 hours ago, the book's existence |
0:22.6 | was a secret. |
0:24.2 | A one-time New Zealand diplomat, Sarah was the company's top envoy to governments around the |
0:29.2 | world. |
0:30.2 | She traveled extensively with people like Mark Zuckerberg and Cheryl Sandberg, and her experience |
0:35.0 | with them and other top brass at Facebook often read like |
0:38.5 | scenes straight out of Veep or Succession. But the book is a lot more than that. It's an |
0:43.5 | insider's account of working at one of the most powerful companies at the highest level, |
0:48.0 | and the gap between the idealistic way it sold itself to its employees and the world, |
0:53.3 | and the reality of what it actually |
0:55.4 | looked like to grow at any cost. |
0:57.9 | The book is called Careless People, a cautionary tale of power, greed, and lost idealism. |
1:04.7 | The memoir comes out today. |
1:06.9 | It happens to coincide with the news that Sarah Wyn Williams has also filed an SEC complaint against the company. |
1:14.7 | It alleges that Mark Zuckerberg agreed to crack down on the account of a high-profile Chinese dissident living in the U.S. |
1:21.7 | at the request of a ranking CCP member, all in the hopes that it would help Facebook enter China. The book itself |
1:29.8 | goes into great detail about what the company tried to do in order to get into business in an |
1:35.6 | authoritarian country. I ask Sarah about all of that, her bizarre experiences, her thoughts on the |
1:42.3 | future of Facebook, the pushback she's already received, |
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