Welcome to ID the Future, a podcast about intelligent design and evolution. Hello and thanks for joining us.

As the famous long-term evolution experiment conducted by Richard Lensky and colleagues

at Michigan State University finally yielded new evidence for the Darwinian mechanism of unguided evolution?

Or is it further proof that Darwin's theory is in a death spiral?

Today I'm welcoming back Biochemist Michael Bihy,

professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania,

and a senior fellow at Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture.

Behe is author of Darwin's Black Box, The Edge of Evolution,

and most recently, Darwin devolves, the new science about DNA that challenges evolution.

Michael, welcome back to ID the future.

Thanks, Andrew. It's always great to be with you, folks.

You recently reported at Evolution news about a new paper by

biologist Richard Lensky and his collaborators concerning the further evolution of a

widely discussed mutant strain of the bacterium E. coli discovered during the course of a three decades long research project.

First, can you give listeners who may not yet be familiar with Lensky work, a brief introduction to this project?

Sure. Most people think that evolution occurs too slowly to watch and so it's it's rife with speculation speculation about how

evolution occurs but way back in 1990 30 years or so ago this fellow Richard

Lensky at Michigan State got the idea to grow bacteria in a

flask.

When he came in and took some of the bacteria from the flask and put it in fresh

broth and he did that the next morning and the next and the next and he's been doing it for the past 30 years he and his students and colleagues and he did it simply to watch how the bacteria might change, how they might evolve.

And the reason was that bacteria can reproduce

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