Michael Lewis on Freakonomics Radio
Against the Rules with Michael Lewis
Pushkin Industries
4.6 • 9.8K Ratings
🗓️ 19 February 2024
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
Enjoy this episode of Freakonomics Radio, where Michael Lewis sat down with Stephen Dubner to discuss his book “Going Infinite: The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon.”
Description from the original episode:
Lewis got incredible access to Sam Bankman-Fried, the billionaire behind the spectacular FTX fraud. His book is a bestseller, but some critics say he went too easy on S.B.F. Lewis tells us why the critics are wrong — and what it’s like to watch your book get turned into a courtroom drama.
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| 0:00.0 | Pushkin. |
| 0:07.0 | Hey there, against the rules, listeners, I am Stephen Dubner and I host Freakonomics |
| 0:15.4 | radio the podcast that explores the hidden side of everything a few months ago I sat down |
| 0:21.0 | with Michael Lewis to talk about his latest book Going Infinite, |
| 0:25.0 | The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon. |
| 0:27.7 | We talked about the story that's in the book, Sam Bankman-Freed and FTX, as well as people's reactions to the book. |
| 0:35.7 | Our episode is called Why Are People So Mad at Michael Lewis? |
| 0:39.7 | So we wanted to share this episode with you. |
| 0:42.5 | Thanks for listening. |
| 0:43.4 | I feel like as much as Sam Bankman-Freed has been in the center of a vortex that you're close |
| 0:59.0 | to the center as well. Can you just tell me what your life has been like the past couple months? |
| 1:04.0 | Surprisingly controversial. |
| 1:07.0 | This material just landed in my lap and I really did think when I was writing it, I never had more fun |
| 1:11.5 | writing a book than I had writing this one. I knew that some people |
| 1:14.6 | were going to be a little bit upset with the book, but I caught basically it was going to be taken |
| 1:18.8 | as a thrill ride and it would just be a fun read for everybody. What I wasn't prepared for was just the sheer |
| 1:25.5 | volume of the anger. |
| 1:28.8 | Michael Lewis is one of the most popular non-fiction authors on the planet. |
| 1:34.7 | His books include Liar's Poker, Moneyball, The Big Short, Flash Boys, |
| 1:39.2 | and now Going Infinite, the Rise and fall of a new tycoon. |
| 1:44.1 | The tycoon in question is Sam Bankmanfreed, |
| 1:46.8 | who was briefly everyone's favorite |
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