Criminology is a true crime podcast that may contain discussion about violent or disturbing topics.

Listener discretion is advised. Oh, Hello everyone and welcome to episode 3.24 of the criminology podcast. I'm Mike Ferguson.

And this is Mike Morford.

Mr Morford, how you doing buddy?

I'm doing better than I was last time.

Still, you know, still making progress, but not quite quite bearing it but hopefully sounding better.

Yeah you do sound better I can still hear it a little bit in your voice.

I mean I think it just goes to show you how rough and how long it can take to get out from under that.

Yeah, it's, you know, I didn't take it as serious as I should have.

Well, you wouldn't be the first person to do that.

I think until you've had it, and everybody experiences it differently.

For some, it hits harder than it does for others, but I think until you've had it and

until you've had a bad case of it, you don't realize how bad it can really be.

Yeah, gotta take it seriously.

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All right, we're diving right into this week's case and

we're talking about a difficult one that involves domestic violence.

Now we've covered plenty of cases on this show that deal with elements of domestic violence,

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