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Depresh Mode with John Moe

Microdosing with James Fadiman and Jordan Gruber

Depresh Mode with John Moe

Maximum Fun

Mental Health, Comedy, John Moe, Comedy Interviews, Interview, Health & Fitness

5777 Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Anecdotal evidence is yielding very positive results for treatment-resistant depression and more.

Transcript

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0:00.0

There was a story in the news. Maybe you caught it. The new American Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., has been on the record claiming that SSRIs, selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors, are more addictive than heroin.

0:17.3

SSRIs are among the most common forms of prescription antidepressant on the market.

0:22.6

Zoloft, Prozax, Alexa, Lexi, those are all SSRIs.

0:27.2

About 13% of Americans take SSRIs.

0:31.6

Maybe you do too.

0:33.5

They're not always effective for everyone, of course.

0:36.3

Nothing is, but they help a lot of people.

0:38.8

And I just want to say no. No to that being more addictive than heroin thing.

0:46.9

Although getting off a prescription med should be done under a doctor's supervision,

0:51.0

they'll help you chart a course for how gradually to go off it.

0:54.8

There are very few cases of people even claiming to be addicted to SSRIs.

1:00.9

Heroin is one of the most addictive, if not the most addictive substance on the planet.

1:08.0

There is evidence that the use of SSRIs saves many lives by preventing suicides.

1:14.9

Kennedy has also said during a 2023 conversation with Elon Musk that SSRIs contribute to school

1:22.3

shootings. There is no evidence pointing to any connection between the use of SSRIs and school shootings.

1:31.2

It's distressing, to say the least, that the highest-ranking public health official in the country

1:36.7

would say these incorrect things. Depression Mode is not a political program, but it is a program that

1:43.6

didn't wish to let such statements

1:45.5

stand. Depressmode supports the availability of doctor-prescribed SSRIs for patients who can

1:52.6

benefit from them. Depression mode cannot believe that it has to say such things, but here we are.

1:59.6

It's depression mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

2:12.4

Okay, well, let's talk about micro-dosing, because we haven't much on this show, and I believe in talking

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