When a victim of clergy sexual abuse comes forward, there are two things she needs.

One, to be believed, and two, for those around her to display courage and to hold the perpetrator accountable.

Fortunately, Deborah Perkins, the first victim of Mike Bickles to go public, received both those things from some amazing advocates.

Welcome to the Roy's Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church.

I'm Julie Roy's.

And in part two of my interview with Deborah Perkins, you'll hear the powerful story of how her brothers and sisters in Christ

banded together to support her and to confront evil.

It was an army, and we all went to war. We've gone to war every day. It's kingdom clashing

against kingdom. This isn't about exposing just sexual sin. This is a system of evil and a system of darkness and men and women

showed up, you know, showed up day after day and were so full of that courage to stand for righteousness.

But you'll also hear how leaders at the International House of Prayer people Deborah thought were her friends, stonewalled and protected Mike, and so did some of her family.

The devastation has been the betrayal of friends and family.

It's just, it's just unimaginable. It's just, it's, it's just unimaginable.

It's a loss there.

This is a powerful conclusion to this important story with so many lessons about how to be

Christ to those who have been abused and marginalized.

But first, I'd like to thank the sponsors of this

podcast, the Restore Conference, and Mark Horda Barrington. If you're someone who's experienced

churchherd or abuse, there are few places you can go to pursue healing. Similarly, if you're an

advocate, counselor, or pastor, there are a few conferences designed to equip you to minister to people traumatized

in the church.

But the Restore Conference this February 7th and 8th in Phoenix, Arizona, is designed to do

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