Hi, it's Saturday. It's a show, specifically The Gist, and this is a Saturday show where we sometimes bring you one from the vault and one from the week.

We're going to do that. We sometimes do this particular variation where the one from the vault will be an old interview, but the one from the week this time is not something that aired on the Gist.

I was on a St. Louis radio show hosted by Mark Reardon, and he had read my reporting, my column

in the free press, wherein I talked about something I was talking about in three parts in

the spiel on the gist, talking about a subway shooting, which was about a man who wouldn't drop a knife.

That man had entered the subway by jumping a turnstile and also slipping through a side gate

and evading a fair. And because he was a fair evader, the activists chanting at police

stations and getting arrests and getting arrested and causing protests.

And a lot of the media reported it as a shooting that started with fair evasion or a shooting based on fair evasion.

My point in this is to understand what happened, as we all should, as citizens, is to understand that it was not about a fair evasion.

It was about not dropping a knife, which is very

dangerous. And as you may have heard, you're not allowed to have a knife, a large knife, a knife

for someone who's not a worker on the subway. So Mark was nice enough to have me on his show.

You will hear me on the phone as I talk with the host of KFTK's Mark Reardon show.

Based on this topic, and I've always been interested in the topic, a recent interview I had,

fairly recent, about policing, and I've done dozens over the years, was with Raphael Mangual,

and he recently is back in 2022. He wrote a book

called Criminal Injustice. It was a wide-ranging conversation. I think at the time it was titled

Debating, Defunding the Police, because that was very much in the air. I find Rafael Mangual an excellent voice on these issues.

So enjoy both of these conversations.

The other day, I hosted a poker game.

No one really wanted to get sloshed.

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