No jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. And today I'm bringing you a remote conversation with one of my favorite legal minds out there on the scene. I do believe that we're kind of seeing the full immersion of the lawyers into the YouTube content space. It feels like this is happening a lot more. But me and Mo mo we've done a some content over the years but

yeah mo happy to have you here yo it's crazy the lawyers are everywhere right a couple years ago

i was like the only person out here doing it and now you go youtube TikTok Instagram the lawyers

are getting into the content game yeah it's it's weird because it's like actually seeing the audience get

intelligent enough that they want, you know, real introspection into some of these cases

and they're not really willing to accept people just getting on camera and, you know,

just saying bullshit. So, hey, we might as well go to the legal minds. Well, it's the audience and the legal minds, right?

The lawyers, the billboard is dead.

Putting yourself on a billboard's a waste of time.

YouTube's the new billboard.

It takes a while for people to realize that, you know, you could be embarrassed and you can feel like it's not cool and not professional.

And then you realize, oh, wait, if i'm not on there i'm pretty much

dead so it's time to get on there well let's get on there uh mo okay and we will have you a link

to uh your social media and your website in the description in case people want to tap in with you

and everything like that but um the first thing that I wanted to get into is I'm sure that

you've seen the Roland 60s, Rico, as it's being called, that came down from the feds, brick,

baby, loose cannon and big you, all arrested as well as a bunch of other people. What kind of

insight can you give me into this case? So the big takeaway here is that there's actually two things happening.

There's a Roland 60s takedown, which means that they have rounded up a bunch of people who they say are in this gang or affiliated with this gang and bought them in for questioning some of them.

They've charged some of them. And then they

put some of them in a RICO indictment. But that's very important. The RICO indictment against

Big U is different from the Roland 60s take down. So Big U's on an indictment with like six or

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