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The Disappearing Spoon: a science history podcast with Sam Kean

"Moldy Mary," The Forgotten Mother of Penicillin

The Disappearing Spoon: a science history podcast with Sam Kean

Sam Kean

Arts, Books, History

41.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2023

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

She helped discover arguably the most important drug in history. And she got zero credit. They called her Moldy Mary—but she turned that insult into triumph...



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Transcript

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0:00.0

A fight nearly broke out right there in the fruit aisle.

0:05.0

The setting was a grocery store in Peoria, Illinois.

0:09.0

The owner of the store, John Scouteris, prided himself on stocking fresh, healthy fruit.

0:15.0

But that day in 1943, he found a moldy grapefruit setting out.

0:20.0

He quietly ponded and slipped away to dispose of it.

0:24.0

But not before a customer caught him.

0:27.0

Mary Hunt

0:30.0

And to Scouteris' horror, Hunt called out.

0:33.0

Wait, is that moldy?

0:35.0

Scouteris could have died.

0:38.0

He hid the grapefruit in his apron and hissed, no.

0:41.0

But Mary would not listen.

0:43.0

She marched over to see it.

0:46.0

By now, other customers were looking.

0:49.0

Scouteris started sweating, pleading with Hunt to zip it.

0:53.0

But she insisted on seeing the grapefruit.

0:56.0

She claimed it was a matter of national security.

1:00.0

National security.

1:02.0

Scouteris thought she'd gone soft in the head.

1:05.0

But then he remembered that Mary did work in a government biology lab.

1:10.0

Mary then doubled down.

1:13.0

She told Scouteris that moldy grapefruit could win the war for the allies.

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