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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Moment 210: Dr. Gabor Maté: Your Trauma Is Secretly Controlling You! (Until You Try This)

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

FlightStory

Society & Culture, Business, Education

4.613.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 April 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

What if your anxiety, people-pleasing, or need to prove yourself isn’t a flaw… but a wound? Dr. Gabor Maté explains that trauma isn’t just about abuse or neglect - it’s the psychological injuries we carry from not getting our emotional needs met as children. This moment explores how those hidden wounds silently shape our adult lives - and how to finally begin healing them. Listen to the full episode here - Spotify - https://g2ul0.app.link/3TMeC0BjPSb Apple - https://g2ul0.app.link/lnb9VOJjPSb Watch the Episodes On YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/%20TheDiaryOfACEO/videos Dr. Gabor Maté: https://drgabormate.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Speaking about our early experiences, the first word in the sort of subtitle of your book is the word trauma.

0:05.4

It's a word that I've talked about a lot on this podcast and I've, you know, I've had a lot of people here that have opened up about their traumas.

0:11.0

How do you define trauma?

0:12.5

I know society has defined it in its own way, but how do you define it?

0:15.7

Yeah.

0:17.6

I define it very specifically.

0:20.0

It's not something bad that happens to you.

0:22.0

It's not that, you know, I went to this movie last night and I was traumatized.

0:27.6

No, you weren't.

0:28.1

You were just sad or you had some emotional pain, but you weren't traumatized.

0:33.5

Trauma means a wound.

0:34.8

That's the literal meaning of the word.

0:36.2

It's a Greek word for wounding.

0:38.1

So trauma is a psychological wound that you sustain.

0:41.3

And it behaves like a wound.

0:44.3

So on one hand, a wound if it's very raw, if you touch it, it just really hurts.

0:50.4

So if I have a wound around not being wanted, then, or the belief that I'm not, then decades later, if anything reminds me of that, it hurts as much as it did when I originally incurred the wound.

1:05.2

So in one sense, trauma is an unhealed wound that touched, we get triggered.

1:09.9

That's what triggering means, by the way. wound won't gets activated or touched and the other thing

1:15.5

that happens to wounds is that they scar over and scar tissue has certain characteristics

1:20.9

it's thick it has no nerve ending so there's no feeling in it so people traumatized

1:26.0

disconnected from their feelings

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