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Mormon Stories Podcast

Mormon Church Employee Speaks Out about SECRET Membership Committee! w/ Kate Lyn Whitaker | Ep. 2007

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2025

⏱️ 171 minutes

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Summary

After five years of reflection, Kate opens up about her journey growing up in a strict Mormon household, serving a mission in Argentina, and working for the LDS Church. She shares pivotal moments of doubt, her experiences in church administration, and the troubling realities she uncovered in the Confidential Records department. From questioning church discipline policies to witnessing firsthand how the institution handles abuse cases, Kate's story reveals the struggles and insights that ultimately led her to leave the church. Join us as she discusses faith, disillusionment, and life after Mormonism.

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0:00.0

I don't think I would have left the church if I hadn't worked for the church.

0:04.7

What I went through and what I saw accelerated my path out of the church so quickly.

0:10.1

Suddenly, I'm reading all these disciplinary council documents about really bad stuff, horrific

0:15.8

spousal abuse, child abuse, murder.

0:19.3

A church leader would call us and say,

0:21.7

I feel like disfellowshipment is too harsh for this child abuser.

0:26.0

So I would be seeing situations where, for example,

0:29.2

return missionary kid has sex once, gets excommunicated,

0:32.4

other guy abuses a kid for five years and gets disfellowship.

0:36.4

Okay, that's outrageous.

0:38.3

In the church, you're made to feel like shit for really small things.

0:41.3

I just couldn't believe anymore that God cared about that stuff.

0:44.3

Because like, what I was finding as I was reading is I cared a lot about vulnerable kids,

0:51.3

and I cared a lot about vulnerable people who had been hurt and I didn't care about these other things that just

0:58.0

what harm is being done. There isn't any that I could find.

1:02.0

So that led to you starting to loosen up your observance of Orthodox Mormon standards.

1:08.0

Exactly.

1:09.0

Yeah. While you're a church employee.

1:17.8

How in the world would working for the Mormon church cause you to start questioning and end up leaving the Mormon church?

1:19.1

That is what we're going to be discussing today.

1:22.4

Hi, my name is John DeLinn.

1:23.7

Welcome to Mormon Stories podcast.

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