So an offended person doesn't build physical walls, although they might, they build walls in their soul.

So they have a closed spirit, is what I like to call it.

And now what's happened is they think they're protecting, but in reality they've imprisoned.

Welcome to conversations with John and Lisa Baveer and this book I this is my favorite book you've ever written the bait of Satan bait is Satan you're thinking what

the heck is that living free from the deadly trap of offense I remember the publisher

you know who's a friend. His name is John Mason.

Well, he, you know, he was, he's not the owner of the company, but he was the lead man.

And I just said, you know, John, I want to write a book on I'm writing this book on offenses, but it's a, you know, overcoming offense is a horrible, horrible title because everybody thinks, because we laughed in the car, we said everybody that's offended doesn't think they're offended.

They don't want to admit they're offended.

But John.

But what I was going to say is he said, do you might have in the word Satan in the title?

And we were on the way the golf course.

This is third, you know know and I said no he said I

said what are you thinking he goes the bait of Satan I went that's it I still remember a

friend of mine said perhaps you should have a copy, a cover for a book

so where people are reading it.

So I just want to read a bit of the content because, John, this book has been around for a while since 1994.

That's the reason we're talking about it right now is its 30 year anniversary is

this month?

How many copies are out? They just passed six it just passed six million copies last

September. How many languages? A hundred and over 120. I don't know exact

number though. Okay so what was so incredible to me was I was reading this quote somewhere and somebody

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