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We learned that she had had a second baby who was either still born or died shortly after birth,

and then very shortly after that she had her daughter.

Her daughter was also born, very premature.

Both born at 24 weeks, and so it's very hard to believe,

you know, that that's a coincidence, right?

I have seen that pattern a bunch of times with other perpetrators.

And now I say perpetrator, I call my sister a perpetrator because that's what I believe she is.

I have strong evidence to that

effect. Welcome to Was I an occult? I'm your host, Liz Ayacuzzi. And me, I just sit here and look pretty.

Does he ever? What will? But I do have a name and that name

name is Tyler Meissom and this podcast is dedicated to giving those who were

in cult or cultic environments a chance to share their story, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Of which you are not.

Oh, thank you, Liz.

Sometimes a man just needs to be held and told he's pretty.

Is there anything wrong with that?

There's nothing wrong with that.

Men need more lifting up in this world.

I completely agree.

I'll work on that.

This whole episode, I'm just gonna throw in side compliments to Tyler when he's feeling down.

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