My Doubts About Bryan Johnson’s “Never Die” Protocol

The Checkup with Doctor Mike

DM Operations Inc.

Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.9 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Bryan Johnson began his life as an entrepreneur, buying, selling, and growing companies like Venmo to build a healthy living for himself. Several years ago, he became fascinated with the idea of maximizing human technology to extend the length and quality of one's life as far as possible. Today, he lives as the most tested man in the world at the center of "Project Blueprint", where drawing on his access to wealth and resources, he pushes the boundaries of human existence to see if he can become the oldest person of all time. As someone who has pushed back quite strongly against biohacking and "optimizing" one's health beyond homeostasis, I was fascinated to ask Bryan about his approach to life and fact-check him on a few of his theories. 00:00 Intro 01:42 Baby Steps From Superintelligence 14:33 Tracking Your Life 21:28 Overpopulation 24:55 Colonoscopy / Testing 30:08 Lessons For Normal People 36:32 Plasma Transfusions From His Son 42:11 HGH Harms 44:50 Sleep Tracking / Sleep Score 50:30 Harms Of "Don't Die"

Executive Producer and Host: Doctor Mike Varsahvski

Produced by Dan Owens and Sam Bowers

Art by Caroline Weigum

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0:00.0	I want to be admired by the 25th century.
0:08.0	I think we really are at the stage of potentially the most extraordinary existence in the galaxy.
0:14.0	My objective is not life maximization,
0:18.0	it's species maximization.
0:20.0	It's trying to get life in this part of the galaxy to flourish.
0:23.2	When you know something is going to be shorter versus longer,
0:26.5	is it fair to say we more are likely to enjoy that?
0:29.6	Are you essentially making your life less valuable by living longer years?
0:36.3	Brian Johnson is the most heavily tested human in history.
0:39.9	After flipping Venmo for a cool $800 million, Brian became obsessed with Project Blueprint,
0:46.1	his self-funded scientific endeavor to, for lack of a better term, live forever.
0:51.2	He has adopted an extreme lifestyle where he is aggressively exploring
0:54.9	highly experimental treatments and research all aimed at extending his lifespan into infinity.
1:02.1	And while longevity is admirable, quality is just as important.
1:06.2	So I invited Brian to New York City to not only learn the ins and outs of his extreme approach to life,
1:11.2	but also break apart the philosophy of a man who's not only
1:14.6	desperate to live to tomorrow but to establish a legacy 500 years from now.
1:19.7	Given the lack of quality of evidence behind most anti-aging therapies,
1:24.2	I wanted to focus less on the individual protocols,
1:27.2	but instead discuss this unique philosophy of exhibiting complete control
1:31.9	in a field where perfect is often the enemy of good.
1:36.2	This is an episode unlike any other that I've done, so please help me in welcoming Brian Johnson
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