The Thank you. Hello, good afternoon, it's Jack Parsons, the UK's chief youth officer and the CEO of the youth group.

Today we're here with another my duvet flip. The reason you get out of bed in the morning.

Right now, I'm struggling to get out of bed. It's really cold. It's dark, but you know what? Because I'm struggling to get out of bed it's really cold it's dark

but you know what because I'm so passionate about helping young people into

careers it's making me get up what's making you get up you may not have that

answer right now and this is why we bring on superstars to talk about their career journey, what flips their

duvet and pathways that you can go into to build a career that you find joyful and interesting.

So I'm going to introduce Alan. How are we?

I'm good, Jack. Yeah, good to be with you as well. You too. We've got our cups of tea, aren't we?

We have. Nice cup of tea.

So I always start here because I think it's so fascinating to understand.

What was your first job?

My, well, my very first job actually, it's an interesting career journey. So I got in, when you're my age, Jack, you go back to when I was young. The thing to do was join a bank. And all my family said, you've got to go into bank and it's a job for life. Little did they know. And so I was

offered a job in a bank and actually I didn't take it because I couldn't bring myself to be

tied to a desk and just think that's all I'm going to do. So my very first job actually was I

then went to college and did a sandwich course because I had no experience and I just went to Liverpool

and did a sandwich course in building surveying and that was just really getting me into

things and so you could say my first job was part of the sandwich course that I was just getting

used to what is work all about you know suddenly few holidays and things like that so I did that I had worked in the summer on jobs you know, suddenly a few holidays and things like that. So I did that. I had worked in

the summer on jobs, you know, on things in factories and doing stuff like that. My dad was a

painter and decorator and used to do a lot in factories. So I used to join him and help him out.

But first proper job, if you like, was just out of college there. Nice.

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