In her psychosis state, she was thinking that the devil would take my brother and have him

die a horrible way. So she was saving him from that. It was kind of what her state of mind was.

Welcome back to other people's lives. I'm Joe Sanagata. I'm Greg Dybeck. For anyone out there

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This week we got an email from a woman and the subject line read, my mom committed

in phantoside against my one-year-old brother. If you don't know what that means, it means that her

mother killed her one-year-old brother. And she's here to explain the story to us and why

she has forgiven her mother and does not believe that she's a cruel murderer. So we've got the

guest on the line. Thank you so much for being on today. Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah, of course.

And you know, thank you for just your willingness to talk about a subject like this. Obviously,

we know it's not easy. So we really do appreciate it. Yeah, it's really hard, but I'm glad to get

the message out there. Yeah, so can you just start off by painting a picture of just your childhood,

your mother in particular, and what type of person she was and what sort of led to these events?

Yeah, of course. So we grew up in Vancouver, Washington and just like a small, like suburb

kind of area. We lived in a house like at the end of a cold sack. My mom and dad had been together

for a few years prior to this. They're married. She kind of had a lot of like mental health

issues, even like before she gave birth to all of us kids. And my grandparents knew this.

And a lot of people like our family around knew this as well. So yeah, that's kind of, I mean, she,

you know, was like fairly normal for the you know, for the most part, but

everyone kind of like had seen some of those like instances where she was showing signs of

mental illness. What kind of mental illness was she suffering from?

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