Hey guys, and welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.

And today is yet another special show because we took the show abroad to Belgrade, Serbia,

where I sat down with Serbian president, Alexandra Wuchik.

It was a fascinating and eye-opening experience.

Serbia is a country that finds itself actually standing for sovereignty and secure borders, while Western Europe is doing exactly the opposite.

It's a country where the legacy of the 1999 NATO bombing still looms large.

And what's incredibly fascinating is that groups like NATO had the very different view

of territorial integrity when it comes to Serbia and Kosovo when you compare it to their position

on Ukraine. In the interview, we will get into all of that. Serbia finds itself located in a

unique place, both literally and figuratively.

It's a landlocked country at the crossroads of Southeast and Central Europe located in the Balkans.

Serbia is part of the former Yugoslavia. During the breakup of Yugoslavia, Serbia formed a union

with Montenegro, which was dissolved in 2006, restoring Serbia's independence as

a sovereign state. Tensions in Kosovo, an ethnically Albanian region in Serbia, escalated

into open conflict in 1998. NATO actually bombed Serbia in 1999, leading to the withdrawal

of Serbian forces from Kosovo. As we discuss in the

interview, this came at the height, the literal height of the Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky

scandal. And many, probably people, especially now in hindsight, many see this bombing as a

distraction away from that fiasco for Bill Clinton.

We also discuss the issue of Kosovo more broadly. The EU and even many in Washington want to

normalize relations between Kosovo and Serbia. But Serbia maintains and argues very passionately that it is part of its own

sovereign territory. There's a lot to get into and you're going to learn a lot. President

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