Hi crime junkies, I'm your host Ashley Flowers.

And I'm Britt.

And the story I have for you today is one that we've gotten a lot of requests to cover

over the years.

And actually, Britt, we briefly touched on it when we did a recap of Netflix's Unsolved Mysteries,

like the very, I think, first season for our fan club listeners.

And while so many of you joined our free summer promo, welcome, hope you're're loving it the majority of our listeners

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staff it's how we keep the lights on do all of our advocacy work.

And God bless all of you who have been with us since the beginning when me and Brit were just doing this out of our spare rooms,

but it is not just you and me running to the bank with our

advertising checks, like Audio Chuck, is a whole network of podcasts. I built a team of

over 65 people here in Indianapolis, editors, reporters, we have people on the business side so we can do more touring and video.

We're actually on the hunt for a new CEO if you know anyone to replace me so I can focus

on stories like these because I want to get lost in the content and this

episode is the perfect example. One day I think I'm covering a story that's going a quick 30 minute episode.

And the next I'm emailing with a Norwegian reporter

that I tracked down asking him all the questions

that I know he has deep in his brain

even if they're off the record,

because I know it's gonna help me tell this story, help you understand

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