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Hello and welcome to the Safi Ridge on Sunday podcast. Today we have interviews with the Education Secretary Nadine Zahari and the Ukrainian MP Lisa Yasko.

Well, thank you for listening. I'm Sophie Ridge. I'm here in Westminster and with us this morning as usual is Scott Beasley over at SkyHQ in West London. Hi Scott. Hi, Sophie. How are you doing? I'm all right. How are you? Yes. Not bad. Not bad. Busy morning, wasn't it?

Yeah, it's quite, obviously, I think all of our shows are good. but I was quite pleased with the show today actually

I think that you know we had a really good interesting range of guests from pussy riot activists

all the way through to you know people talking about Northern Ireland politics we had a big

chunk on the cost of living and also our main interview with the education secretary as well, which we'll listen to almost in full, I think.

Yeah, I think we were really keen to get back to doing some Ukraine, weren't we, this week?

Yeah, we were.

Obviously, everything's been very dominated by domestic politics the last few weeks, whether it was the elections and the fallout from the elections or Northern Ireland and the protocol and that sort of thing.

But we didn't want to neglect what's going on in Ukraine because it's so important.

And we found, I know personally both of us, I think it's been so powerful having Ukrainian voices on.

It has.

And I feel that with Ukraine, because Maripol has fallen effectively after that incredible brave siege that we saw in the steelworks, the Russian fighting is really intensified now because it's freed up a whole load of Russian troops to go to the Dombas.

So it feels like another stage of the war is happening.

So, yeah, we will hear from this incredibly powerful Ukrainian MP, Lisa Yasko.

I mean, they're all just completely war-inspiring, aren't they?

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