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Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

Nadine Macaluso - Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing from Trauma Bonds

Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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True Crime, Talk Radio, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2024

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Psychologist, trauma bond expert, and author of Run Like Hell: A Therapist's Guide to Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing from Trauma Bonds, Nadine Macaluso share about her relationship with ex-husband Jordan Belfort (aka The Wolf of Wall Street) and how it led her to become a therapist with a focus on trauma bonds. They also discuss "mind mapping", intermittent reinforcement, the difference between intensity and intimacy, the three phases of trauma bonds and how violence can play into them, why Nadine uses the term "pathological lover" instead of narcissist, how to tell if you're currently in a trauma bond, and green flags that are the sign of a healthy relationship. Check out our great sponsors! Quince: Love affordable luxury? Go to Quince.com/trust for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns! Shopify: Run a business? Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/trustme BUY OUR MERCH!! bit.ly/trustmemerch  Got your own story about cults, extreme belief, or abuse of power? Leave a voicemail or text us at 347-86-TRUST (347-868-7878) OR shoot us an email at [email protected] INSTAGRAM: @TrustMePodcast @oohlalola @meaganelizabeth11 TWITTER: @TrustMeCultPod @ohlalola @baberahamhicks TIKTOK: @TrustMeCultPodcast 

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0:00.0

If you have your own story of being an occult or a high control group, or if you've had experience with

0:04.9

manipulation or abuse to power that you'd like to share, leave us a message on our hotline number

0:09.4

at 34786 trust.

0:12.2

That's 347-868-78-78.

0:16.0

Or shoot us an email at trust-me pod at gmail.

0:20.0

Trust me. Trust me.

0:22.0

Dude you trust me. Trust me, I'm like a smart person. Yeah, I've never lied to you. I never have lied.

0:28.0

If you think that one person has all the answers, don't.

0:32.0

Welcome to Trust Me. The podcast... has all the answers. Don't!

0:33.0

Welcome to Trust Me, the podcast about cults, extreme belief and manipulation from two Bond girls

0:38.5

who've actually experienced it.

0:39.7

I'm Lola Blong.

0:41.0

And I'm Megan Elizabeth.

0:42.4

And today our guest is the incredible Nadine Macaluso. She is a psychologist,

0:47.1

trauma bond expert, ex-wife of Jordan Belfort, aka the Wolf of Wall Street, and author of her new book Run Like Hell, a therapist's guide to recognizing, escaping, and healing from trauma bonds.

0:58.5

And yes, Nadine is the one played by Margot Robbie in the movie.

1:01.6

She's going to tell us about how her relationship with her

1:03.4

ex-husband began, what the red flags were in retrospect, and how it led her to become a therapist

1:08.0

with a focus on trauma bonds. We'll talk about the difference between intensity and intimacy,

1:12.1

why she uses the term pathological

1:13.9

lover instead of narcissist, and how pathological lovers engage in what she

1:17.1

calls mind mapping to figure out your vulnerabilities, much like what cult leaders

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