Nate Gruner and Meaghan Cleary: Functional Analytic Psychotherapy for OCD (#475)

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Stuart

Bdd, Health & Fitness, Recovery, Hocd, Cocd, Rocd, Bodydysmorphicdisorder, Ocd, Anxiety, Obsessivecompulsivedisorder, Mental Health, Help, Mentalhealth, Depression, Advice

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🗓️ 2 March 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In episode 475 I chat with Nate Gruner and Meaghan Cleary. Nate is a staff behavioural therapist at the obsessive-compulsive disorder institute at McLean hospital. Meaghan is a licensed mental health counselor and a registered dance and movement therapist. She is also a behavioural therapist and group facilitator at the obsessive-compulsive disorder institute at McLean hospital.

We discuss what is functional analytic psychotherapy (FAP), the rules of FAP, using the therapeutic relationship to create change in OCD, what FAP looks like in a session, case examples, the therapist training we are running through the centre I co-run, integrating FAP with exposure and response prevention therapy (ERP) and acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT), why I’m interested in FAP, and much more. Hope it helps.

Show notes: https://theocdstories.com/episode/nate-and-meaghan-475

FAP training for therapists: https://www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/live-trainings-therapists/fap-for-ocd

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0:00.0	You're listening to The OCD Stories podcast, hosted by me, Stuart Ralph.
0:05.5	The OCD Stories is a podcast dedicated to raising awareness and understanding around obsessive,
0:11.1	compulsive symptoms. I do this for interviewing inspired therapists, psychologists, and people
0:16.8	who have experienced OCD. Welcome to the OCD Stories.
0:24.6	And welcome to episode 475 of the podcast.
0:36.3	And this one, I got back on Nate Gruner and Megan Cleary. Nate is a staff behavioral therapist at the Obsessive Compulsive Disorder Institute at McLean Hospital.
0:41.3	Megan is a licensed mental health counselor and a registered dance and movement therapist.
0:49.0	She is also a behavioral therapist and group facilitator at the Obsessive Compulsive Disorder Institute at McLean Hospital along with Nate.
0:57.1	So in this one, we discuss what is functional analytic psychotherapy, or FAP for the rules of FAAP using the therapeutic relationship to create change what FAAP looks like in a session case examples the therapist
1:04.3	training on FAP that we are running through the centre I co-run integrating FAP with exposure
1:09.6	and sponsor prevention therapy and acceptance
1:11.7	commitment therapy, why I'm interested in FAP and much more. And thank you to NoCD for supporting
1:17.8	the podcast. NoCD offers effective and convenient therapy available in the US and outside the US.
1:23.7	To find out more about NoCD, their therapy plans, if they currently take your insurance,
1:28.9	or to download their free app, head to go.treatmyoced.com forward slash the OCD stories, or the link
1:36.3	will be in the episode description. So thank you to Nate and Megan for their time. It was awesome
1:41.8	speaking with them. Interpersonal therapies and FAP is something that's piqued my interest for their time. It was awesome speaking with them. Interpersonal therapies and FAF is something
1:46.6	that's piqued my interest for a while. So it was great to go into this in more detail. And of course,
1:51.1	thank you to you guys for listening as always. It means a lot. And about for ever ado, here is Nate and Megan.
1:57.2	Welcome to the podcast, Nate and Megan.
2:01.8	You're there. Thanks for having me back on. And thanks for letting Megan join us. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
2:09.9	I'll say there's always there's always gaps when there's more than two guests because then like
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