All right here we are we have a very special episode. I personally I know we all are I'm very excited about this one on and why don't you do the honors of the intro here

So we have Nathan Hoffman here who's running for District Attorney of Los Angeles and you know we've talked

about crime in the city and how certain pockets have turned into a war zone in the last four years and you know we're

making up for sins of having Gasconon four years ago because that clearly wasn't the right path.

I can't believe you guys did that.

Oh, you guys.

Your name's on the podcast, buddy.

Hey, go back and watch the episode.

Someone who wasn't bad.

I'm going to be honest.

Part of the Gascon thing and it was part of like a, and obviously I'm not white, but it was like a white guilt era where we all felt that it was important to look at society through a different lens and we all protested,

we all listened to every podcast and interview and bred.

And it kind of opened our eyes to what potentially was a social construct that was

causing harm to harm to particular groups of people.

And then when things actually played out,

what we realized it was really just,

at the end of the day people commit crimes people do bad

things and they need to be held accountable for it and I think we kind of got

blinded by what is actually good and bad and we yeah I think I think

I can tell you it's like our empathy was used against us yes and I think we can tell you it's like our empathy was used against us.

Yes and I think particularly in Los Angeles

which is a you know historically very liberal city we always give people the

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