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This Scotland Outdoors podcast from BBC Radio Scotland.

Hello, I'm Rachel Stewart and I'm sitting in my garden actively looking for butterflies and bees.

It's a reasonably sunny day, but there's not a great deal of activity unfortunately.

Like many people, I'm keen to do a bit more to try to give nature a helping hand in my own little green

space behind my house. Now, someone who actively promotes nature-friendly gardening is M.T. O'Donnell.

She's the founder and editor of the Scotland Grows magazine and podcast. Now recently, I visited her garden near Glasgow

and we started by talking about how to deal with a creature.

Aw, most gardeners dread.

I save all year long shells from the eggs

and then crush them and put them around some of the plants that

are more susceptible to slug damage. Not so much my hostas. I've got lots of horses in the garden

and you can see that some of them are quite nibbled now. I'm okay with that. I used to be a bit like

everyone else, a bit fanatic about protecting them, but I'm not now.

As long as I can get a couple of months of the year with the horses looking fab, the slugs

are welcome to munch away for the rest of the time, but I do like to protect my lupins

because I'm quite a lupin lover.

And these are new lupins that have gone in here this year, so I just save all the eggs shells let them dry out and then

crush them and put them round if you're going to do it you need a really thick

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