For more than two decades, Patrick and Mary Dumuth faithfully served as leaders at a megachurch in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

But as concerns about the current pastor grew, they found they could no longer stay in good conscience.

And now, they're dealing with the anger and grief so many so-called church refugees feel.

Welcome to the Roy's Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church.

I'm Julie Roy's. And today, Mary Dumuth joins me to talk about navigating church bewilderment.

Sadly, this is an issue many Christians are dealing with, as abuse, scandal,

and corruption increasingly seem to be seeping into the church. And if you caught our last podcast

with Amanda Cunningham, you heard about many of the concerning issues at Lake Point Church in the

Dallas-Fort Worth area, where Josh Howerton is pastor. This is the church where Mary and Patrick served for 23 years.

And if you missed our prior podcast, it was a real eye-opener.

And I encourage you to go back and listen to that.

Today's podcast is a sequel to my podcast with Amanda.

But rather than exposing the issues at Lake Point today, Mary is going to be

discussing the aftermath of leaving. How do you deal with righteous anger? How do you navigate the

grief? How do you know how much is okay to say and what is gossip? And how do you find another

church home when you're dealing with feelings of betrayal and lack of trust, how do you

avoid getting in the same situation again? These are crucial questions, and ones that I know

many of you are dealing with today. And so I'm so looking forward to diving into this topic with

Mary Demuth. But first, I'd like to thank the sponsors of this podcast, Talbot Seminary, and Mark

at Barrington.

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