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Dream Big Podcast with Bob Goff and Friends

Navigating Controversy and Criticism with John Inazu

Dream Big Podcast with Bob Goff and Friends

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Talk Radio, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2024

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the Writing Room podcast, Bob and Kim are joined by John Inazu, a law professor and author of an upcoming release, "Learning to Disagree". Join this trio of storytellers as they explore the intersection of law, life, and writing, inviting listeners into a space where understanding triumphs over division. If you're seeking inspiration to infuse empathy into your narratives, this episode promises a wealth of insights and practical wisdom. John Inazu is the Sally D. Danforth Distinguished Professor of Law and Religion at Washington University in St. Louis. Inazu is also the author of Liberty's Refuge: The Forgotten Freedom of Assembly and Confident Pluralism: Surviving and Thriving Through Deep Difference. He is co-editor (with Tim Keller) of Uncommon Ground: Living Faithfully in a World of Difference. Inazu is also the founder of The Carver Project and the Legal Vocation Fellowship and a Senior Fellow with Interfaith America, where he co-directs (with Eboo Patel) the Newbigin Fellows. Connect with John: @johninazu Connect with Bob: @bobgoff Connect with Kim: @kimberly.stuart.writes Join Bob and Kim for the next Writer's Workshop at The Oaks: April 22-24 Learn more about Writing Coaching with Bob and Kim

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0:00.0

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0:09.5

Hey everybody, welcome to the writing room podcast. So glad you're with us. My name is Bob,

0:15.3

and I'm with Kim Stewart. Hi, Kim.

0:17.3

You there. So good to see you today, Bob. How are you? I'm doing great.

0:21.0

I just finished a draft, the first bad draft of the next book.

0:26.1

And so then you go back.

0:28.3

We're going to invite our friend John here to talk to us about some of that process.

0:32.4

But once you write a bad draft of the book, then you start making it better.

0:36.1

And by about the 10th pass through,

0:38.5

then it's ready to give to somebody to actually make it better still. So I feel it pretty engaged.

0:45.9

Hey, John, tell us a little bit about you. You have a book learning to disagree. I've heard you're a lawyer.

0:53.0

Yeah, you are too, right? Yeah, I'm going straight. How about you?

0:57.3

Well, I teach law, so I don't know where that puts me in the process. Yeah, I teach too. At Pepperdine,

1:02.0

they wouldn't let me into school there, but they let me teach there, which always cracks me up.

1:07.6

So tell us a little bit about you for people that aren't familiar with you, like where are you from, why this book?

1:15.9

What's the arc?

1:17.7

What's your message that you're trying to get out to the world?

1:20.2

Great, thanks.

1:20.9

Yes, I teach at Washington University in St. Louis.

1:23.1

I've been a law professor here for about 12 years and do some ministry work and other things

1:28.5

on the side.

1:29.5

The new book called Learning to Disagree is sort of building off earlier stuff I've done about

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