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🗓️ 27 March 2024
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0:00.0 | Access more. |
0:09.5 | Hey everybody, welcome to the writing room podcast. So glad you're with us. My name is Bob, |
0:15.3 | and I'm with Kim Stewart. Hi, Kim. |
0:17.3 | You there. So good to see you today, Bob. How are you? I'm doing great. |
0:21.0 | I just finished a draft, the first bad draft of the next book. |
0:26.1 | And so then you go back. |
0:28.3 | We're going to invite our friend John here to talk to us about some of that process. |
0:32.4 | But once you write a bad draft of the book, then you start making it better. |
0:36.1 | And by about the 10th pass through, |
0:38.5 | then it's ready to give to somebody to actually make it better still. So I feel it pretty engaged. |
0:45.9 | Hey, John, tell us a little bit about you. You have a book learning to disagree. I've heard you're a lawyer. |
0:53.0 | Yeah, you are too, right? Yeah, I'm going straight. How about you? |
0:57.3 | Well, I teach law, so I don't know where that puts me in the process. Yeah, I teach too. At Pepperdine, |
1:02.0 | they wouldn't let me into school there, but they let me teach there, which always cracks me up. |
1:07.6 | So tell us a little bit about you for people that aren't familiar with you, like where are you from, why this book? |
1:15.9 | What's the arc? |
1:17.7 | What's your message that you're trying to get out to the world? |
1:20.2 | Great, thanks. |
1:20.9 | Yes, I teach at Washington University in St. Louis. |
1:23.1 | I've been a law professor here for about 12 years and do some ministry work and other things |
1:28.5 | on the side. |
1:29.5 | The new book called Learning to Disagree is sort of building off earlier stuff I've done about |
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