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This is a Global Player Original podcast.

Okay. Global Player Original Podcast Hello and welcome to full disclosure, a podcast to allow me to spend much more time than I'd ever get on the radio

with people who I fully expect to find fascinating.

And there's not much prospect of this week's guest failing to live up to that expectation.

Neil, now Lord Kinnock, welcome.

Thank you very much.

So I think I ought to leave now after that kind of introduction.

We've peaked.

I mean, for people of my generation, you're obviously a political titan

and a hugely influential figure in the Labour movement and politics in general.

But I want to begin in Wales.

I have an appalling, and I am actually embarrassed by this,

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