You ready?

John, lovely to have you.

Thanks for having me.

Yes, yes.

I was telling you earlier, it was Andrew.

So I get people write to me daily asking to come on the show.

And my good friend Andrew Jones wrote to me he went trust me you need to have

John done anything Andrew tells me I just do very good very good I was telling you earlier

I knew Andrew at Hillsdale College, but I have not, that was 20 years ago.

And he, we got back in touch when he launched a new polity and we emailed and

corresponded a bit about that and then when I came to write the book at some point

I was like I need a medieval historian to check me here so I knew the perfect guy

Andrew Jones.

What kind of feedback did he give you?

He gave me some helpful

suggestions about including paganism in Rome and just generally kind of fisked my first couple of chapters which I needed.

So he was he's he made it into the acknowledgments as a as one of the people that kept me on the rails as I kind of tried

to make this argument.

We'll put a link in the description below to the book.

Could you just sum up the book you've written real quick?

Yeah, the book is called pagan America,

the decline of Christianity and the Dark Age to come.

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