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Network effect: Customers help utilities build smarter, more efficient power grid

Marketplace Tech

American Public Media

Technology, News

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of “Marketplace Tech,” Meghan McCarty Carino speaks with Daniel Cohan, professor of civil and environmental engineering at Rice University, about virtual power plants. These aren’t physical generating stations. They’re more of a network, usually managed by a local utility, that aggregates electricity from  different sources like businesses or homes. Essentially, these customers give energy back to the grid or help the utility balance supply and demand. As electricity demand grows, thanks to power-hungry AI data centers, electric cars and extreme weather, some providers are turning to virtual power plants to reduce strain on the grid.

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0:00.0

Virtual power plants could help us address our very real energy challenges.

0:07.0

From American Public Media, this is Marketplace Tech. I'm Megan McCarty Carrino.

0:12.0

Demand for electricity is growing, thanks to power-hungry AI data centers, electric cars and extreme weather.

0:30.6

Now some utilities are turning to a short-term solution to reduce strain on the grid, a concept called virtual power plants. These aren't

0:39.3

facilities at all. They're more of a network that aggregates unneeded electricity from a bunch

0:45.4

of different sources, like a business or a home, which essentially give back some energy to the

0:51.4

grid. I spoke with Daniel Cohen, professor of civil and environmental

0:55.8

engineering at Rice University, about how these virtual power plants often draw from regular

1:02.0

consumer tech. We see utilities in different parts of the country turning to customers in different

1:07.5

ways. Some of them are having their customers have adjustable thermostats,

1:13.3

where the company or the grid can control just how much the air conditioner or the heating

1:19.3

is operating and to be more flexible in the air conditioning and heating use. Others are looking to homes that have rooftop solar and battery

1:30.8

systems that they can adjust how that rooftop solar energy gets sent back to the grid by adjusting

1:37.3

the use of the batteries. Others are turning to smart vehicle chargers that instead of charging a

1:43.2

vehicle right away, can decide

1:44.8

when to charge up a vehicle so that it's charging at times that are easiest for the grid to supply.

1:50.9

And what are the advantages of virtual power plants?

1:55.1

Well, the country faces a real challenge in that our power demand is growing very quickly.

2:00.6

Our economy is growing. There's increasing

2:03.3

number of data centers and AI operations, and all of this is driving up demand. At the same time,

2:11.7

the main growing sources of supply in this country are wind and solar, which generate at specific times of the day that

2:19.5

aren't so controllable. And so there's a need to have more control over when we get supply and

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