Hey, you're listening to Unlimited Hangout. I'm your host, Whitney Webb. Today is going

to be a bit of an unconventional episode. It's probably around November. I've been eager

to unpack a rapidly growing effort to legislate, quote-unquote, neuro-rights, meaning neurological

rights at the national level in various countries and the global level through the UN. I had

originally planned to talk about this issue through an article, but I obviously still haven't

gotten around to that with everything else that has been going on in my life and in the

world. So I figured it would instead be a good subject for a podcast. So when planning

out this podcast, I was thinking of who I could interview on this topic since usually

the format of this podcast and falls me interviewing other people. But I haven't really seen anyone

doing deep dives or really been talking about this neuro-rights legislation that's been

popping up in a handful of countries and its implications. So I realized I'd probably

have to do this one solo. However, unlike some of my colleagues, like Ryan from Tealab

or Robbie Martin from Media Roots, who can do 3-hour plus shows solo, I prefer the conversational

style personally. So in this episode, instead of a regular guest, I will be joined today by

my amazing assistant and podcast editor, Star. So hey, Star, how's it going? Welcome to

the unlimited Hangout podcast. Thank you. It's nice to be here.

Awesome. All right. So to start off, how did I first hear about and get interested in

this neuro-rights phenomenon you may be asking? Well, it turns out Chile, the long skinny

country in South America where I've lived for 8 years, is the test bed for this legislation

and also for the neuro-rights constitutional amendment. But no Chilean actually wrote

this legislation or this amendment, which have now since passed, making Chile the first

in the world to legislate neuro-rights. Instead of these Chilean laws being written by

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