Hey, everybody. I've got another intrepid journalist with us today. Aaron Mate is a writer who

publishes at mottay.substac.com also is the host of pushback with Aaron Mate and co-host

the podcast useful idiots. He's a contributor to real clear politics in 2019. He was awarded

the Izzy Award for outstanding achievement and independent media for his coverage of Russia Gate

in the nation magazine. He was previously a long-time producer of democracy now. He's done

extraordinary reporting, very, very useful reporting on the Ukraine most recently. And he broke a

story that actually where he is one of the stars of this story. He's not only the writer but also

the subject of a story where the FBI, and correct me from wrong Aaron, the FBI was cooperating with

Ukrainian security agency, the SBU, to censor U.S. journalist and others. I think there was 163 people

on the list that the Ukrainian government wanted censored who were criticizing U.S. policies

in the Ukrainian war. So this is just a new, a new, pioneering, new territory of censorship,

which of course is what we all knew was going to happen once they knew they had the power to

the censorship stuff. This is kind of the logical conclusion that they get to go to war and nobody

gets to criticize it. So tell us what happened. Yeah, I mean, I thought if I was listening to the Biden

administration that we're feeling this proxy war in Ukraine and to defend democracy. So I guess

this means now that their definition of democracy means censoring views that criticize the proxy war

because that's what happened here in March of 2022. So just weeks after Russia invaded, the FBI

sends Twitter an email and says, we're attaching a list that we've received from the SBU, the

security service of Ukraine. That's the premier Ukrainian intelligence agency for your review.

And the FBI says that these accounts are suspected by Ukraine of spreading, quote, fear and disinformation.

And the attached list from the SBU is a bunch of Twitter accounts. And the SBU says in a note,

please block these accounts and also give us their user data, which means that the SBU via the FBI

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