Hello and welcome to Under the Skin from Luminary. This week I spoke with

Noam Chomsky, one of the most influential intellectuals in the world.

He's laureate professor of linguistics at the University of Arizona, a professor at

Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the author of more than 150 books. He is also

obviously Noam Chomsky. It was an amazing conversation. I felt like I was talking to a

communist father Christmas, a proper elder, a wise evangelical secularist who continues to

believe very powerfully in change. It's a fantastic conversation. I feel really grateful

that we've managed to do it. I've got to be able to cultivate some of my voice sounds

with mental. Trying to achieve equality with the annihilation of category is not a successful

rule. That's exactly right. We're in this era where it turns out we were never the last.

What's beneath the surface of people with the mind of the ideas that define our time,

the history we are told. And welcome to Russell Brand. Under the skin.

Professor Tromsky, thank you for joining us. They had to be with you. If my eyes are pointed

in the corner, that's because I'm reading the transcription. Can't hear anything.

Ah, okay. There's a transcription. I'll speak slowly. It doesn't help. I have to look at the

transcripts. Oh, regardless. I will. Thank you so much for joining us, Professor.

The Scottish comedian, Billy Connelly, said that the queen must think that the world smells of paint

because everywhere she goes, there's someone ten yards ahead of her, sort of polishing and

removing any blemishes from the world that she encounters it. And I wonder if to you,

Professor, the world is full of people who, as I am about to, try to impress you with their

intellect and vocabulary as you have been canonized while still alive under peerless in your field

and in your social and cultural position. And so I said, it feels like an interview that I have,

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