Nobody Should Believe Me: Sophie Saves Zambia

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Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.7 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Today on PRETEND, we’re featuring the season 5 premiere of Nobody Should Believe Me, a compelling podcast hosted by author Andrea Dunlop that explores Munchausen by proxy abuse. Dunlop’s investigative storytelling sheds light on a complex and deeply troubling form of abuse, offering listeners both empathy and insight. Season 5 kicks off with an in-depth look at Sophie Hartman’s 2016 memoir, Crowns of Beauty, where Hartman recounts her experiences in Zambia and her journey to becoming the adoptive mother of two Zambian girls. This episode unravels the layers of Hartman’s narrative, revealing her evangelical Christian roots and the persona she crafted as both a martyr and savior. Andrea Dunlop is joined by Chad Goller-Sojourner, a performance artist and transracial adoption coach, who provides nuanced perspectives on the challenges and intricacies of transracial adoption. Together, they explore themes of identity, privilege, and the ways in which personal narratives can obscure uncomfortable truths. Whether you’re a fan of Nobody Should Believe Me or new to the series, this episode promises a gripping and thought-provoking listen. Tune in to hear Andrea Dunlop and her team continue their important work of exposing the hidden dynamics of Munchausen by proxy abuse. Where to Listen: Nobody Should Believe Me is available wherever you get your podcasts. Don’t miss the season 5 premiere, streaming now! Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0tU5rLsNkx7LeI2GhLlQ4X?si=1e02ca94e6ac4066 Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Creative Babble.
0:06.4	So back in season 12, when I was working on the Stalker series,
0:10.9	I met an up-and-coming podcaster named Andrea Dunlop,
0:15.2	and she actually was a guest on this show, Pretend.
0:19.0	And since then, she has started her own podcast about Munchausen by proxy.
0:24.8	It's called Nobody Should Believe Me.
0:27.0	And if you haven't listened to it, start now.
0:29.2	Because season one is phenomenal.
0:31.7	It blew my socks off.
0:33.1	I remember exactly where I was.
0:35.5	When I first listened to it, I was like hanging Christmas lights,
0:38.8	and I just couldn't believe what I was hearing. They are now on season five of Nobody Should Believe Me.
0:46.3	And I started binging this new season. It's about a young woman from Michigan who adopted two
0:50.8	Zambian girls. And in this season, we learned about Sophie's Deep Roots in Evangelical Christianity and see how she portray herself as this martyr and savior.
1:01.5	Let me tell you, from the first episode, you're going to be hooked.
1:04.5	I'm going to play you the first episode of Season 5, of Nobody Should Believe Me.
1:09.4	Make sure to subscribe because the series is out now
1:13.1	and you will want to be on top of this one, I promise.
1:16.9	All right, so go check out, Nobody Should Believe Me.
1:20.0	Let's play Episode 1 of Season 5.
1:23.0	Here we go.
1:36.6	There is a family in Renton that I want to introduce you to mom, Sophie, went on an inspiring trip to Zambia in her college year.
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