Norbert Röttgen on Germany

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.6 • 907 Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Yascha Mounk and Norbert Röttgen discuss the war in Ukraine and Germany’s political, economic, and security crisis. Norbert Röttgen is a senior leader of the Christian Democratic Union. A former cabinet minister, he was chair of the Bundestag’s Foreign Affairs Committee from 2014 to 2021. Röttgen is the author ofDemocracy and War: Politics and Identity in a Time of Global Threats. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Norbert Röttgen discuss the insufficiency of Germany’s support of Ukraine (and theZeitenwende that wasn’t); the nascent pro-Russian movement gaining strength on the margins of German politics; and whether the path to an independent and secure Europe runs through Germany. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.0	What is fundamental for the emergence of this crisis is that we are living in a time of extreme simultaneous changes we are facing.
0:45.4	It's the erosion of geopolitical order.
0:48.6	It's technological disruption.
0:51.1	It's climate change. It's migration, so many changes that are immediately and
0:59.5	directly affecting the personal lives of many, people and what we see is the traditional
1:06.2	parties and our political systems the way they work they are still working as if this new era had not occurred.
1:16.4	And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. My guest today is Norbert Rutkin.
1:25.0	Norbert is one of the most senior German statesmen and politicians in Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic Union.
1:37.2	He was the Federal Minister for the Environment for many years and has served as the chair of the Bundestag's Foreign Affairs Committee.
1:45.6	Norbert and I had a really wide-ranging conversation about Germany's role in the world right now. We discussed the Ukraine war why it constituted a fundamental
1:57.6	rupture in Germany's post-war history and what Germany, Europe and the West need to do in order to counter Vladimir Putin.
2:06.4	But we also talked about the deep political and economic crisis in Germany itself. We discussed how it is that the German post-war model is running a ground and what the country now needs to do.
2:22.0	I haven't actually discussed Germany all that much on this
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