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NORTH AMERICAN WILD KINGDOMS AWAKENING NOW: 7/8 Wild New World: The Epic Story of Animals and People in America Kindle Edition by Dan Flores

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🗓️ 24 March 2025

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 NORTH AMERICAN WILD KINGDOMS AWAKENING NOW:  7/8 Wild New World: The Epic Story of Animals and People in America Kindle Edition by  Dan Flores 
https://www.amazon.com/Wild-New-World-Animals-America-ebook/dp/B09TQ2TMN2

Distinguished author Dan Flores’s ambitious history chronicles the epoch in which humans and animals have coexisted in the “wild new world” of North America—a place shaped both by its own grand evolutionary forces and by momentous arrivals from Asia, Africa, and Europe. With portraits of iconic creatures such as mammoths, horses, wolves, and bison, Floresdescribes the evolution and historical ecology of North America like never before.
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0:00.0

I'm John Bachelor with Professor Dan Flores.

0:07.0

The book is Wild New World, the epic story of animals and people in America.

0:12.0

The man's name is Sir William Drummond Stewart.

0:15.0

He began a safari, a luxurious safari in the West, middle of the 19th century, and what results from it

0:24.3

is a massacre of animals, not only in excess of what you need to eat, but really what it looks

0:31.5

like is a serial killing, a mass massacre that has no justification in human history. The reason I mention

0:41.5

him is that he's not alone, but you go on to detail, and I'm not going to read how much he took.

0:47.1

He becomes a model for the other adventures who come in the latter part of the century when the

0:52.6

railroad makes it available to reach Montana

0:55.4

or to reach Colorado.

0:57.2

Was there any chastising of Stewart when they read about him back east or when they read

1:04.4

about him in Europe?

1:05.3

Anybody say, why are you doing this?

1:08.1

I don't find any evidence that anyone confronted William Drummond Stewart or St. George

1:15.5

Gore or any of the other, usually nobleman from Ireland or Great Britain, who regarded

1:24.3

the American West, particularly the Great Plains part of the American West,

1:29.4

which was our analog of the Serengeti or the Maas, Mara, as this destination to sheet animals.

1:36.4

I don't find that anyone other than an occasional cartoonist in a newspaper ever really

1:43.7

castigates these people for doing this.

1:47.2

It's the same thing they're doing in Africa, of course, during the same period of time.

1:52.2

It's the beginning of what we call the safari.

1:54.8

The safari is a Swahili word.

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