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Inside the Hive

“Nothing About What Trump Does Surprises Me": An Interview with Democratic Superlawyer Marc Elias

Inside the Hive

Vanity Fair

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4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2021

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

This week, Inside the Hive welcomes Marc Elias, the lawyer who defended the election results against the Trump campaign’s assault, winning 62 out of 63 court cases in multiple states. Despite the fraud claims of seven senators and 121 members of congress who rebelled against the certification of Joe Biden's win this week, Elias says “not a single judge found a single vote that was fraudulent. None. Zero.” The bloodshed at the Capitol on Wednesday was more predictable than it was shocking, he says, and “the Republicans are even now still invested in trying to salvage the kernel of Trumpism.” What follows is an in-depth conversation with the election lawyer at the front lines of history. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Inside the Hive.

0:05.0

You're here with Joe Hagen and Emily Jane Fox.

0:08.0

Emily, it is a solemn day in America. I don't I feel like that's the only if that sound is the only

0:18.4

thing I can muster. Yeah. Yeah. Take we got to take a deep breath and try to ground ourselves because things are moving so quickly. There's been so much trauma this week. I mean talk about highs and lows you had this two senators

0:36.2

Democratic senators winning in Georgia which instantly changed the

0:41.8

political equation in this country.

0:44.0

And then we have, you know, the lowest point in modern history is certainly in our lifetime.

0:57.5

With this... modern history is certainly in our lifetime with this attack by Trump and his

1:03.1

whatever you want to call these people. It's a mob right? It's a mob you right? They're terrorists.

1:05.1

That's what I would like to call them.

1:07.3

The terrorists, right.

1:08.8

And you know, today on the podcast I'm going to be talking to Mark Elias who was the the lawyer for the

1:14.1

DNC who fought so many court battles to give voters the right to vote and then

1:22.1

battled the Trump campaign after the fact to make sure

1:26.5

that those votes counted. And you know that was that work for democracy all that work

1:35.9

has

1:38.8

arrived at this flashpoint in which we understand the real value and gravity of voting and the

1:47.9

consequences of democracy and the voice of the people I mean these things are

1:51.2

everybody's talking about this right now I get it but

1:55.2

last night like a lot like you and probably a lot of people I'm watching the certification of

2:01.6

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris in the Senate and in Congress.

2:06.0

And you've got these seven senators and 121 congresspeople dissenting and I, you know know if I were to sort of you know it

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