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NS#239: Deal or No Deal

The New Statesman | UK politics and culture

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🗓️ 12 October 2017

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Would a "no deal" Brexit really be so bad? Helen and Stephen analyse the likelihood of the UK crashing out of the EU without a plan, and then take a look at the domestic policy problems brewing with Universal Credit. Then, they answer a listener question: would any of the 2016 Tory leadership candidates have done better than Theresa May?

Also, listen out for the introduction of our new Boris Johnson swear jar - let us know what charity we should donate the contents to at the end of the year. Contact us on Twitter via @ns_podcasts@helenlewis or @stephenkb.

Further reading:

Chris Cook on Brexit and "Project After"

@shockproofbeats' Twitter thread about the Irish border post-Brexit

Jess Phillips' Huffington Post piece about her brother's Universal Credit application



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0:00.0

This is a passenger announcement. You can now book your train on Uber and get 10% back in credits to spend on Uber eats.

0:11.0

So you can order your own fries instead of eating everyone else's.

0:15.0

Trains, now on Uber. T's and C's apply. Check the Uber app.

0:20.0

I'm David Arullovich. Listen to my new series from Tortoise, Eight Years Hard Labour.

0:25.9

It tells the extraordinary story of the double revolution that engulfed the Labour Party after 2015,

0:31.6

from centre left to hard left and back again, the battles and

0:35.7

disasters that accompanied them and the two men who led those revolutions,

0:39.7

Jeremy Corbyn and Kiea.

1:04.2

Listen to eight years hard labour wherever you get your podcasts. Hi I'm Stephen and I'm Helen and on this week's new States from podcast we ask would a no-deal Brexit really be so bad would any of the

1:08.5

other Conservatives candidates had done better than Theresa May and what's happening in the country that isn't Brexit and is it all going horribly, horribly wrong?

1:17.0

So Stephen, do we have to talk about Brexit? We do and we will forever.

1:26.6

Yeah well no no we know not according to Liam Fox who has got a plan it's called

1:30.4

Project After and it's his basically his plan for the transition deal and what happens after it.

1:35.2

So Chris Cook wrote a good article about this on the BBC which had some stuff in it that made me do that emoji like,

1:40.3

for example, the fact that during the transition deal let me get this right so say

1:45.6

South Korea could sell into us as part of the EU trade but we would have to have our

1:49.3

own bespoke deal with South Korea ready on the day after you know on whatever it is now April 1st

1:54.8

2019 to sell to them and also the thing I hadn't got into which lots of people you know

1:58.6

about trade had really been talking about for ages they kept talking about Roo

2:01.7

and I didn't want to really admit that I didn't really know what

2:04.1

Roo was. And it's rules of origin. So it's the idea that if you're a part of the EU trade deal,

2:09.0

then you have 55% of whatever it is you're making has to be made in the EU. So if you're a car manufacturer

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