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NS#258: Corbyn's Brexit Tightrope

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🗓️ 1 March 2018

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Stephen and Anoosh discuss Jeremy Corbyn's Brexit speech and Labour's new position on the customs union. Then, they talk about the #LabourToo report on harassment in the party and give a brief guide to the left-wing blogosphere (can you tell your Canary from your Skwawkbox?). Finally, they answer a listener question: why do Brexiteers care so much about trade deals?

Send us your questions for future episodes via Twitter @ns_podcasts@anoosh_c or @stephenkb or join us on Facebook for a live Q&A.

Further reading:

Stephen's column on Corbyn's speech.

Anoosh's interview with Richard Burgon.

Anoosh's report on LabourToo.

Anoosh's piece on the new pro-Corbyn media.



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0:00.0

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0:20.8

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0:25.9

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0:31.6

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0:35.7

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0:39.7

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1:05.8

Listen to eight years hard labour wherever you get your podcasts. Hello I'm Stephen and I'm Anush and on this week's news day from podcast we talked about Labor 2's report into sexual harassment allegations

1:09.3

Corbin's big Brexit speech and why Brexit is always talk about trade deals. So Jeremy Corbyn had a big speech this week about the Customs Union, about foreign policy, more general than just Brexit.

1:30.0

The best insight that I've heard into Jeremy Corbyn's speech so far was from a friend of mine who is not a sort of avid politics follower, generally labour but not a big fan of Corbyn.

1:40.0

And he said, oh, you know, I really did like that thing that Jeremy Corbyn said about the customs union the other day.

1:45.8

I feel like it's something that Labour's always been saying, but now it's more organized.

1:49.4

And I definitely think that that's true because really the main shift was that he basically said

1:55.5

We want to have this customs union permanently. We're in favor of that whereas before it was like we want access to the single market and the benefits of the customs union

2:04.4

it was a bit more vague so now we know what he wants and it's a dividing line with

2:07.6

the Conservatives when it comes down to voting but yes I do agree with what my friend

2:11.8

said was that now it's just a little bit more organized.

2:14.2

So now if you are a remainer and you are looking to labor for leadership, you can think to yourself,

2:20.9

oh, well, they're actually quite pro-European and if you're a lever you

2:24.5

look to labor and you still know that their policy is just to leave the European Union

2:28.6

just like the Conservatives. Yeah I mean this thing it of, what they've done very effectively this week, well I think obviously it may turn out to be completely wrong when you know the Lib Dems win 500 council seats in May.

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