Talk is Jericho,

Jericho, baby.

Talk is Jericho.

My heart.

Talk is Jericho. Mama. Talk is me. It's honestly crazy to me after being in the business as long as I have and the

business as long as Chris Hero has that we never really crossed paths too much.

Obviously an AWU once or twice and maybe,

at some point in WEE, maybe,

but it's been pretty rare that you and I

have ever been in the same area together.

Yeah, I think we saw each other backstage at a Royal Rumble and there was a fan getting kicked out. A fan had worked his way all the way into the inner area of the locker room and I remember

us chatting and then all of a sudden we're like get this guy out of here what's he doing you know and

then very briefly I went up to Jacksonville to kind of meet with people and kind of hang out right you know this is mid pandemic so I hadn't seen people in a while and I caught you on my way through like the hotel bar.

But now you actually are working for AEW

as a producer, backstage guru, kind of tell us how that happened because you mentioned we saw you at the pandemic.

I do remember that now, but it seems like it's probably been about him with six months or so since

she started in a day of you kind of how did that all come to pass?

Yeah, it actually has been just going on six

months right now I started at the very first collision. Let's see just my background

with producing slash coaching when I came back to the Indies got I got let go during the

pandemic you know I didn't wrestle right away obviously I just recently wrestled for the first time in three and a half years but working doing seminars and working with some of these independent groups I thought man they could really benefit from just a little bit of producing, a light bit of producing, and then some show-to-show development for a lot of the young guys and girls.

And my first foray was working for Ring of Honor at like the last six months of the most recent iteration of

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