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Axios Re:Cap

Oil Breaks the Internet

Axios Re:Cap

Axios

Daily News, News

4.5705 Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2020

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

Oil prices suddenly went negative Monday evening, a sign that oil supply is outpacing demand as travel by planes and cars dramatically decreases — but the historic nature of this price drop also speaks volumes to the volatility that coronavirus is introducing to so many markets. Dan is joined by Axios energy reporter Ben Geman to discuss what this means for the oil industry.  PLUS: Facebook blocks COVID truther protests and the next big problem with health care

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0:00.0

Welcome to Axis Pro Rada, where we take just 10 minutes to get you smarter on the collision of tech, business, and politics.

0:09.5

I'm Dan for Mac. On today's show, Facebook blocks COVID-truther protests and the next big problem with health care.

0:15.6

But first, oil breaks the internet. So if you were brave enough yesterday to venture onto social media, you probably

0:21.8

saw a bunch of jokes about oil prices, which isn't the sort of thing you usually see on social

0:26.5

media outside of a very small subset of energy reporters and policy wonks. The reason, oil futures

0:32.6

dipped below zero yesterday, $38 below zero, prompting all the jokes, like how people would gladly help out

0:39.5

some Oklahoma wildcatters by storing their oil, you know, for $38 per barrel. Why it matters,

0:44.4

though, is that this is anything but funny to America's massive energy industry, which is simply

0:48.9

creating supply for which there isn't enough demand. We don't really fly or drive much anymore,

0:54.0

and all sorts of

0:54.8

manufacturing is slowed. Plus, the regular season of lessening of heating oil needs is in play,

0:59.2

and oil companies are becoming something akin to makers of VCRs and pagers. Now, for context,

1:04.2

the U.S. energy sector at this moment is the smallest of the S&P 1500's 11 major sectors,

1:10.6

worth less than real estate or utilities.

1:13.0

And the only theoretical silver lining in this, the idea of going to the gas station

1:17.0

and being paid to fill up your tank, well, that's apparently not going to become reality

1:20.9

either due to the other layers of costs that get included like refinement and transportation

1:25.0

and state taxes.

1:26.1

So how did we get here and where do we go next?

1:28.6

For that, I'm pleased to be joined by Axios Energy Reporter Ben Geeman. So, Ben, let's start with

1:32.7

what happened yesterday and help me out here. If oil prices are technically negative, how does

1:39.3

that work practically? I take oil out of the ground and what, pay somebody else to take it from me?

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