And I think one of my beliefs is that this is a conversation that we're having with

the paranormal and not just something that's passively happening to us all the time.

Today we're talking to the podcaster that we're now calling our official paranormal correspondent,

my brilliant friend Jim Perry. He's the host of Ufamette, a paranormal documentary series

that explores the unknown and our relationship to it. As flexible skeptics, we enjoy doing

a lot of speculating in this episode, which includes our thoughts on the recent, unidentified

aerial phenomena that has rocked our little terrestrial world. The first UFO hysteria

of the 1940s and how the way we experience the paranormal has something to do with both

personal and national trauma. I'm your host, Chelsea Weber-Smith, and this is American

hysteria.

Hello, Jim Perry, I think I'm going to call you our official paranormal correspondent

going forward. I love that. Thank you so much. I'm so happy you called me a correspondent

and not an expert. Oh, none of us are experts. There ain't no such thing.

Yeah, that would have just been a line in the sand for me. I would have said no, no, no.

I am done. I'm out of here. Correspondent. I can handle though. Sometimes that's just

somebody outlaying in the grass with a notebook. That's what sometimes a correspondent

can be. And aren't we all just people laying outside with a notebook at the end of the

day?

Do we just end the episode there? That's perfect. We figured it out. Well, I have invited

you, Jim, to talk about the fact that we are currently being invaded by UFOs. There

is no other possible explanation. And it is time, everyone, to get your emergency supplies

ready. But really, I want to advocate that we should all be prepared for any type of disaster

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